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  How did you get out of field service?

  by Mulan in

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  when i was a kid, we had the meeting for service at our house on saturdays.

  i would seem to be getting ready in my room and when mom went into the living room, i would run into her bathroom and get in the shower.

  i had long hair, and no hairdryers in those days.

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  Had to go.
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  What makes you get through the boring meeting!

  by DaCheech in

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  i sing the songs with different words (we are lying, uhm uhm uhm), (you are fooled by the gb, uhm uhm hum)

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  I don't go.
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  If things turn ugly for the Western world, will you run back to "Mother"?

  by True North in

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  who knows what will come in the years ahead from terrorism, global warming, conflict over natural resources, proliferation of wmd, et al.?

  it's not hard to imagine truly horrific things happening.

  i don't think it's likely, but perhaps one day the major powers might even respond to religion-related terrorism by joining together to restrain or control religion under the banner of the u.n.. such events certainly could trigger a response from the fears/phobias that ex-jws may carry around with them due to years of wt indoctrination -- however much repressed these are at most times.

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  I'm safe.
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  Where are they now?

  by Puternut in

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  it's hard to believe, it's been over a year since i was df'd.

  i was in the borg for 25 years and made a lot of friends.

  we were so close with several families, that we were inseperable.

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  "The funny thing is she even mentioned to me that she appreciates that I have not bothered to try and have contact with my old JW friends. Ironic how it would be wrong for me to call or email her, but it was ok for her to 'reach out and say hello' oh.. and ask for help"

  It?s this kind of pious self-righteous attitude that makes my skin crawl, even after all these years.

  My JW sister disowned me more than twenty years ago, shortly after I left the group. I lost my relationships with my two nephews and niece. Not one of them was more than eight or nine years old at the time. I wasn?t allowed to grow up with them and now they?re all grown and probably have families of their own. Don?t know. I?ve never heard from any of them. But when MY little girl was born (eight years ago) suddenly my sister wanted to become Aunt Dee. Never heard a word from her for something like thirteen years. She sent us a bunch of baby presents and a little card that asked us to kiss the baby for her! It was very clear by the things she said that she thought it perfectly all right to have a relationship with MY kid. Hypocrite! But when some time went by and I didn?t acknowledge "gifts", she complained to my JW mother how I didn?t respond to her "loving" gesture. I told my mother that there was to be no relationship any longer between me and my sister and that was the last time my sister ever came up in dialogue with my mother. Oh, a few times my mother mentioned something about her or something about her family, but I didn?t even acknowledge that she had even said anything. I just changed the subject rather obviously. She ?got it? pretty quick.

  After all these years, this is the only thing about my JW experience that when I think about it, I can get really pissed off about. How dare that bitch think she's good enough for my little girl but that I?m not good enough for her kids? Oh, fuck that.

  She is still my sister and if she (or anyone in her family) needed something like money, or an organ transplant, I wouldn?t hesitate to offer my help. But I?m interested in NO relationship with them. One thing the JW?s taught me, is how to shun. And I?m a damned expert at it now. You bet ya.
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  Where are they now?

  by Puternut in

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  it's hard to believe, it's been over a year since i was df'd.

  i was in the borg for 25 years and made a lot of friends.

  we were so close with several families, that we were inseperable.

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  Steve Lowry

  They're consumed by their loyalty to the Watchtower Society, and it doesn?t leave much room for "silly" things like friendship if it gets in the way of that loyalty. Don?t take it too personal though. It?s a simple but effective cultic tactic used by the Watchtower Society to ?demonize? the one who leaves the group. It protects the ?flock? by keeping them ignorant of the outside world, and it creates a kind of self-sacrifice syndrome (cutting themselves off from friends and relatives) that reinforces the ?faithful? that they are doing the right thing. And as mentioned here in this thread also, there is fear.

  It doesn?t completely invalidate your old friendships, but it dose show you now, how conditional those friendships were. It?s a cult thing.

  Peternut,

  The following post to Sassy may seem to contradict my advice to you about not taking it personal. That's still the way I feel, in most cases. However this particular case (my sister) IS personal and it will remain so. There are those times in life that people cross a certain line, and they must pay the consequences.
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  Hi, I'm new to the site, and kind of don't understand...

  by my-journey in

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  i was just curious as to the aim of this website?

  i thought it was a discussion board for those interested in/ for jehovah's witnesses, but it seems like you're all former jehovah's witnesses?

  so is this site just to bash jehovah's witnesses?

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  Ya know, my-journey, I was going to try and help you by responding to each one of your comments. But after thinking about the many things you said, I've just decided you?re an ass. Go be a JW if you wish. There?s a sucker born every minute and the clock?s still tickin'. Tell ya what though, after you?ve been in for a few years and you've decided its not the nirvana you thought it would be, then come back here and I?ll do my part to try and help you. Until then I?ll save you your time and mine.
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  Insomnia

  by Uzzah in

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  well here i am at 36 hours and counting.

  i can't sleep.

  thus the reason for my proliferation of posts lately.. anyone with any cure alls, home remedy spells?

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  Ok, here's something I try when I can't sleep. Silly as sounds it works for me, most times. I get as comfortable as I can, I close my eyes and I count back from 100. (Some noise in the background helps, like a fan or something.) The trick is, to say the numbers fairly quickly (but not too fast). It takes a certain amount of concentration to count backwards. So as I count backwards and I begin to realize that I am starting to miss numbers in their proper sequence (i.e., 69,68,66,65,63,60,58), I don?t try to correct it. I allow it because I know that little bit of ?fuzziness? tells me I am beginning to loose the battle of concentration, which is the first step in giving up the state consciousness. It usually takes several times counting down, and I have had to do it (that I am aware of anyway) thirty or more times. Occasionally this doesn?t work, but it?s the only thing in my sleep arsenal that I can use to force sleep.

  Alcohol can be a great sleep aid as well, but it can also cause you to wake up too early if you drink too much, because of the dehydration factor. The best sleep I get though, is the night after I have a good workout.

  Good Luck.

  Steve

  If you're wondering why I am typing this at 3:20 in the AM, its because I just woke up from an incredible nightmare. There's no going back to sleep for me for a while, I can tell ya that!
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  I didn't realize how much it had affected me...

  by Aztec in

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  the witnesses have infiltrated!

  anyway, love ya all!.

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  Now, you will only get stronger and stronger. Great first step!
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  There's a fly in my beer!

  by Elsewhere in

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  oh well... a beer is a terrible thing to waste.

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  There's a bly in my feer. (Hick-up). Maybe I've had too much feer already (Hick-up)
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  How Does It Feel Knowing That You Were Once A Member Of A Cult???

  by minimus in

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  does it bother you?

  the more i think about it---the angrier i get.

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  No one wants to have to get cancer to learn the lessons that accompany going through surviving it. But its impossible to learn the lessons of inner strength (and what you?re made of) without having to go through such an experience. Same thing goes with the JW experience. It?s been a great teacher. And I guess I?d rather not have had to go through the whole experience to learn the things I have learned, but I?m kinda glad I did, on this side of it.

  You can?t build muscle by simply looking at exercise equipment. Without resistance there is no growth.